Podcast

Digital strategy expert Leslie Richards joins Gina Rubel to explore the seismic shift brought on by zero-click searches and AI-generated summaries. They break down how law firms can still rise to the top without traditional click-throughs by becoming trusted sources for AI results in tools like Google and ChatGPT.

July 2025

Former presidential speechwriter and author of Say It Well, Terry Szuplat, joins Gina Rubel to discuss the power of authentic communication in high-stakes environments. From his behind-the-scenes lessons working with President Obama to his candid reflections on overcoming a fear of public speaking, Terry shares practical wisdom for leaders, lawyers, and communicators.

June 2025

Sarah Larson joins Jennifer Simpson Carr to discuss how law firm leaders should communicate in the wake of high-profile legal rulings like Ames v. Ohio. They explore the impact of fear-driven headlines, how to avoid reactionary messaging, and why alignment with firm values must drive both internal and external responses.

June 2025

Eric Meyer, founding partner of Pierson Ferdinand, joins Gina Rubel to discuss the Supreme Court’s unanimous decision in Ames v. Ohio Department of Youth Services and its implications for all employers, including law firms. They discuss how the ruling affects Title VII compliance, the future of DEI efforts, and the importance of consistent, merit-based employment practices. Eric offers practical guidance for minimizing legal risk while reinforcing fairness and accountability in hiring, promotion, and internal investigations.

June 2025

Sarah Larson and Elizabeth Ogilvie join Jennifer Simpson Carr to discuss how law firms can navigate the evolving legal and political landscape surrounding Employee Resource Groups (ERGs) and diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. They share practical strategies for assessing and adapting ERG policies, emphasizing the importance of transparency, clear documentation, and internal collaboration.

June 2025

Elizabeth Catterall Ogilvie joins Jennifer Simpson Carr to unpack SHRM’s newly introduced BEAM Framework—Belonging Enhanced by Access through Merit—and what it means for law firms navigating today’s diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) landscape. They discuss the five BEAM questions, explore how merit-based inclusion can strengthen talent strategies, and share how law firms can evolve their DEI programs in light of recent executive orders and court decisions.

May 2025

Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr explore one of the most sensitive challenges law firms face: managing public and media communications during litigation. From defending global brands to navigating precedent-setting cases, they discuss why early engagement with communications professionals is essential, how to strike the right balance between legal accuracy and public clarity, and why “no comment” is never the right response.

May 2025

Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr examine what the ruling in favor of Perkins Coie and this year’s powerful Law Day of Action mean for every law firm. From politically motivated executive orders to renewed commitments to uphold the Constitution, they discuss how law firm leaders must prepare for reputational risks, align legal and communications strategy, and defend the rule of law in an era of unprecedented scrutiny.

May 2025

Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr unpack what clients are truly looking for from their outside counsel today, drawing directly from the candid insights shared during last week’s General Counsel panel at the Legal Marketing Association’s International Conference. They explore five critical themes that every law firm should understand to strengthen client loyalty, grow relationships, and win new business.

April 2025

As legal professionals gather in Washington, D.C. for a packed week of industry conferences, including the 40th anniversary of the Legal Marketing Association, Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr take a candid look at what it means to show up authentically during turbulent times.

April 2025